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on Mount Everest, water boils at 70°C (or 82°C depending on altitude), whereas on other planets or even on Earth, water can boil at both mor

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on Mount Everest, water boils at 70°C (or 82°C depending on altitude), whereas on other planets or even on Earth, water can boil at both more than 100°C and less than 100°C.

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Why Water Boils at Different Temperatures

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## Direct Answer and Correction of Premises Water does not boil at 70°C on Mount Everest; it boils at approximately 68°C to 72°C (around 154°F to 162°F) near the summit, while at intermediate base camps it is closer to 82°C. More importantly, the premise that water boils at different temperatures on *other planets* requires a crucial physical distinction: water boils whenever its vapor pressure equals the surrounding atmospheric pressure, regardless of where that happens in the universe. This variability matters because boiling is not an intrinsic property of water alone, but a thermodynamic interaction between liquid water and the gas pressure pressing down upon it. Understanding this mechanism explains why cooking takes longer at high altitudes and how industrial pressures alter chemical processes. ## The Physical Mechanism of Boiling To understand why boiling temperature changes, one must examine vapor pressure. Molecules in liquid water constantly move and collide. Some gain enough kinetic energy to escape into the air as gas (evaporation). When water is heated, its molecules move faster, and the vapor pressure inside the liquid increases. Boiling occurs when this vapor pressure equals the external atmospheric pressure pushing down on the liquid's surface. At that exact point, bubbles of vapor can form *inside* the bulk liquid rather than just at the surface. Atmospheric pressure is simply the weight of the air column above a given point, measured in units like atmospheres or kilopascals. Because Earth's atmosphere thins out as altitude increases, there is less air pressing down on a pot of water. Consequently, less heat energy (lower temperature) is required for the water's internal vapor pressure to match the lighter atmospheric pressure. Conversely, inside a sealed pressure cooker, trapped steam increases the external pressure, forcing water to stay liquid past 100°C. ## A Tangible Example: Cooking on Everest Imagine a mountaineer boiling water at the peak of Mount Everest (elevation 8,848 meters). At this height, atmospheric pressure is roughly one-third of the pressure at sea level. Because the ambient pressure is only about 33 kilopascals instead of the standard 101.3 kilopascals, water molecules need far less thermal energy to break free into the gaseous state. The water reaches its boiling point at roughly 69°C. While the water is technically boiling—producing vigorous bubbling and steam—its temperature cannot rise any higher because any additional heat energy goes into converting liquid water into gas (latent heat of vaporization) rather than raising the kinetic energy of the remaining liquid. Because 69°C is far cooler than the 100°C required at sea level, food submerged in that boiling water cooks much more slowly, as chemical reactions that soften starches and proteins proceed at lower thermal velocities. ## State of Knowledge and Limitations The relationship between ambient pressure and boiling point is a well-established physical law governed by the Clausius-Clapeyron relation in thermodynamics. There is no scientific controversy regarding *why* this happens. However, applying this principle to other planets involves distinct environmental variables. For example, on Mars, the atmospheric pressure is so low (averaging less than 1% of Earth's) and temperatures are generally so cold that liquid water is thermodynamically unstable: it would typically flash-boil or freeze instantly depending on local conditions, making stable pools of boiling water virtually nonexistent on the Martian surface without artificial containment. ## Follow-up questions 1. How does the Clausius-Clapeyron relation mathematically connect changes in pressure to the latent heat of vaporization in liquids? 2. If you used an open pot of water on the surface of Venus, where atmospheric pressure is roughly 90 times that of Earth, what would happen to the boiling point of water? 3. What are the practical limitations of using a pressure cooker to accelerate cooking times at extreme industrial scales compared to domestic kitchen use?
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yes, so where else we can see this phenomenon?

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Where Else We See Pressure Altering Boiling Points

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## Direct Answer and Mechanism Building on how atmospheric pressure dictates when water boils, this phenomenon appears anywhere liquid meets a gas under varying pressure—both in everyday life and across industrial applications. Boiling is not an exclusive property of water or high mountains; it is a universal thermodynamic balance between a liquid's internal vapor pressure and the external force pressing upon it. Wherever external pressure drops or rises, the boiling point shifts predictably. ## Everyday and Engineering Examples * **Automotive Cooling Systems:** A car radiator operates under high pressure (typically around 15 pounds per square inch above atmospheric pressure). By sealing the system, engineers raise the boiling point of the coolant mixture well above 100°C, allowing the engine to run hotter and more efficiently without boiling over. * **Aviation and Hypoxia:** In unpressurized aircraft cabins at high altitudes, the cabin air pressure drops significantly. If body fluids were exposed directly to such low pressures, their boiling point would drop below normal human body temperature (37°C), causing fluids to vaporize—a severe hazard prevented entirely by pressurized cabins. * **Industrial Steam Turbines:** Power plants use large boilers operating at extreme pressures. By containing water under massive pressure, engineers can heat it to several hundred degrees Celsius before it flashes into high-energy steam, driving turbines with maximum thermodynamic efficiency. ## Limitation and Boundary While this pressure-boiling relationship applies universally across different liquids, the exact temperature shift depends on a liquid's specific chemical properties, such as its **latent heat of vaporization** (the energy required to transform a liquid into a gas at a given temperature). Water has a notably high latent heat compared to many other solvents, meaning changes in pressure alter water's boiling point more dramatically than they alter the boiling points of light organic solvents like alcohol or acetone.
Question · @LiviaZavtur

I meant locations, beside mount everest, ocean maybe?

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Water Boiling in Oceans and Deep Basins

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## Direct Answer: Pressure Variations in Aquatic Environments Expanding beyond mountaintops, water pressure also shifts boiling points in oceans and deep bodies of water. The fundamental rule remains the same: boiling occurs when a liquid's internal vapor pressure equals the total pressure pressing down on it. While climbing a mountain *decreases* altitude pressure and lowers the boiling point, going deep underwater *increases* the pressure and raises the boiling point significantly. ## The Mechanism in Deep Water In an open ocean, the external pressure on water is the combined weight of the atmosphere above plus the weight of the water column itself. Water is dense—every 10 meters (about 33 feet) of depth adds approximately one atmosphere of pressure. At the bottom of the Mariana Trench, roughly 11,000 meters deep, the crushing pressure exceeds 1,000 atmospheres. Under such extreme pressure, water molecules require vastly more thermal energy to escape into a gaseous state. If you could somehow introduce an intense heat source at that depth—such as a volcanic hydrothermal vent—liquid water would not boil at 100°C; its boiling point would be pushed up to several hundred degrees Celsius. ## A Concrete Example: Hydrothermal Vents A real-world illustration of this principle occurs at deep-sea hydrothermal vents, such as "black smokers." These are fissures on the ocean floor where geothermal heat superheats seawater emerging from the Earth's crust. Because the surrounding ocean water is under immense hydrostatic pressure, the superheated fluid emerging from these vents can reach temperatures exceeding 400°C (750°F) without boiling away into steam. Instead, the water remains a superheated liquid until it mixes with the colder, surrounding ocean water and the pressure drops. ## Limitation and Boundary This deep-sea pressure effect applies exclusively to fluid phases under local containment. If a sample of superheated water from a deep vent is rapidly brought to the surface, the sudden drop in pressure causes it to flash-boil explosively as its internal energy instantly exceeds the new, lower boiling point.
Question · @LiviaZavtur

Do we know of any examples from space? What is the temperature needed to boil water on other planets?

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Boiling Water on Other Planets and in Space

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## The Thermodynamic Rule in Space To find out what temperature water needs to boil on other planets, we rely on the same thermodynamic rule that applies on Earth: water boils when its internal vapor pressure equals the surrounding atmospheric pressure. Because "space" is largely a vacuum with near-zero pressure, and different planets have vastly different atmospheric pressures, there is no single boiling point across the solar system. Instead, a planet's atmospheric pressure determines whether liquid water can exist at all, and at what temperature it turns to steam. ## Boiling Temperatures Across the Solar System On other worlds, the ambient pressure dictates the boiling threshold: * **Mars:** The atmospheric pressure is extremely low, averaging less than 1% of Earth's. If you heated a container of water on Mars, it would reach its boiling point at a mere 0°C to 10°C (32°F to 50°F). In fact, because Martian pressure sits near or below the triple point of water (the minimum pressure where liquid water can stably exist), exposed liquid water typically turns directly into gas (sublimation) or freezes rather than forming a stable boiling pool. * **Venus:** The surface pressure is roughly 90 times that of Earth. Under this crushing blanket of air, water cannot boil at 100°C. It requires temperatures exceeding 450°C (842°F) for its vapor pressure to match the surrounding Martian-style heat and atmospheric weight. ## A Vacuum and the Limits of Liquid Water In the vacuum of open space, atmospheric pressure drops effectively to zero. Without external pressure to hold liquid molecules together, water cannot maintain a liquid state. If an astronaut released liquid water into a vacuum, it would instantly flash-boil into vapor as the dissolved gases and thermal energy drove molecules apart, and the remaining water would rapidly freeze from the latent heat of vaporization. Thus, water does not have a universal "space boiling point"—its state depends entirely on the local atmospheric pressure of the specific planet or moon.
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Further Horizons in Phase Thermodynamics

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## Papin's Steam Digester *Lens: Historical or intellectual foundation* **Why it connects:** In 1679, French physicist Denis Papin invented the "digester," a closed metal vessel featuring a weighted safety valve that used trapped steam pressure to raise water's boiling point, which directly originated the technology behind both modern pressure cookers and industrial steam engines. **Explore:** How did early seventeenth-century tinkerers measure and calibrate steam pressure before the invention of reliable mechanical pressure gauges? ## Supercritical Fluid Extraction *Lens: Empirical or scientific connection* **Why it connects:** When water is heated and pressurized past its thermodynamic critical point (374°C and 22.1 megapascals), the distinct boundary between liquid and gas vanishes entirely, creating a supercritical fluid that exhibits unique solvent properties used to decaffeinate coffee or destroy toxic waste without boiling. **Explore:** What happens to the latent heat of vaporization as a substance approaches its critical point from the liquid phase? ## Metastable Superheating and Explosive Boiling *Lens: Scope or method* **Why it connects:** Thermodynamic equilibrium models assume boiling occurs predictably when vapor pressure equals external pressure, but highly purified liquids in smooth containers can experience extreme superheating far above their boiling points until a tiny disturbance triggers violent, uncontrolled flash-boiling (bumping). **Explore:** Under what specific surface and purity conditions can a liquid bypass its theoretical boiling point to enter a hazardous metastable state? ## Cryogenic Storage and Boil-off Management *Lens: Cross-disciplinary or practical direction* **Why it connects:** In aerospace engineering, managing cryogenic liquids like liquid hydrogen or oxygen involves the exact inverse of high-pressure boiling; engineers must prevent ambient heat from causing these ultra-cold liquids to boil away inside storage tanks in near-zero atmospheric pressure. **Explore:** How do modern spacecraft design thermal insulation systems to minimize cryogenic boil-off during long-duration space missions?
Question · @LiviaZavtur

On icy moons like Europa (Jupiter) or Enceladus (Saturn), vast liquid water oceans exist under miles of solid ice. Because space is a vacuum, if a crack or plume vents ocean water into space, the sudden pressure drop causes the water to flash-boil instantly, even at freezing temperatures, before freezing into ice crystals

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Phase Change in Plumes: Why Icy Moon Water Flash-Boils and Freezes in Space

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## Direct Mechanism of Plume Freezing When subsurface ocean water from moons like Europa or Enceladus escapes through a surface fracture into the vacuum of space, it undergoes an extreme and rapid phase transition. This behavior is governed by the same thermodynamic rule explored in previous contexts: boiling occurs when a liquid's internal vapor pressure equals the external pressure. In the vacuum of space, external pressure drops near zero. Because the escaping water still possesses thermal energy, its vapor pressure drastically exceeds the surrounding ambient pressure. This sudden imbalance causes the water to **flash-boil**—evaporating explosively even though the surrounding space is intensely cold. ## The Dual Transition: Flash-Boiling to Ice This flash-boiling process is self-limiting and triggers a secondary phase change almost simultaneously: * **Latent Heat Loss:** To convert liquid water into vapor, a large amount of energy (the *latent heat of vaporization*) must be absorbed. * **Rapid Freezing:** Because the escaping plume cannot draw heat from its vacuum environment, it must pull that required energy from the remaining liquid water itself. This massive internal heat loss drops the temperature of the remaining water instantly, causing it to freeze into solid ice crystals and microscopic snow. Spacecraft like NASA's Cassini have directly sampled these resulting plumes in the Saturnian system, finding them composed of water vapor, ice grains, and simple organic molecules.

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